Bucs 2011 lineup?

C: Doumit
1B: Alvarez
2B: Sanchez
SS: Bixler (Luis Cruz?)
3B: Adam LaRoche
LF: Tabata/Moss/Pearce
CF: McCutchen
RF: McLouth

3 guys who were on the roster at the beginning of the month.
2 from the Bucs minors, assuming Bixler is the SS and I have serious questions about that position in particular.
2 positions filled by guys acquired in the last week. I'm not sure if Tabata would be up by then since he's still only 19, but maybe a lefty/righty platoon of Moss and Pearce could fill in.
And 1 very big guy who is currently not in the system but should be soon, better be soon - Pedro Alvarez. If nothing else, the recent deals by the Bucs make signing Alvarez imperative and they should be focused on nothing else over the next two weeks.

Rotation:
Snell, Gorzellanny, Bryan Morris, Brad Lincoln, Daniel McCutchen

Bullpen:
Capps, Hansen, Ohlendorf, Herera, Jeff Karstens, Moskos?

The pitching will change a lot so this projection will be way off, but of note is that the pitching in the organization is still thin and Snell and Gorzo rebounding are still crucial. Who knows about the bullpen but at least those guys throw hard.

Missing:
Jumpin Jack Wilson - will be dealt, hopefully sometime before the end of 2009
Neil Walker - .235 at AAA for a 3Bman doesn't cut it.
Adam LaRoche - say bye after 2009
Jose Bautista - gone asap hopefully
Zach Duke - how did 2005 ever happen?
Grabow - too valuable to be kept around, he could bring a lot in return

Nady & Marte Traded: What Are Reasonable People Saying?

Getting out from under the weight of New York garbage, er tabloids, some people put some rational thought into the Nady/Marte deal:

• Perhaps the guru on the Bucs minor league system, Wilbur Miller likes the way things are looking for the Bucs, if not this deal in particular:

The farm system, after six years of neglect, was almost completely barren. The structure of the team was similar to a franchise that has decided to expend all its resources on one or two shots at winning it all. The difference, of course, was that the Pirates weren't built to win it all, they were built to make a low-cost run at .500, and even then the talent level was so low that everything would have to go right for the McClatchy/Littlefield aim-low strategy to succeed. And, with many of their key players set to leave after 2009, they had only two years to do it...Whether Huntington made the right move remains to be seen. What we can say for sure now, though, is that he’s broken from the failed Dave Littlefield strategy of clinging to a losing roster as if it was the 1927 Yankees and trying to tweak it around the edges with penny ante moves. This is the first time in this millennium that the Pirates have made a difficult decision that was aimed at improving the team on the field. By itself, that shows things are different now.

• John Perrotto at the Beaver County Times counters the thought that the Bucs got fleeced, noting that we shouldn't have to endure any more disasters like Luis Munoz and Bryan Bullington getting called up and not pitching at all.

• Joe Sheehan at Baseball Prospectus thinks:

This is the type of deal Neal Huntington needed to make. Considering that he flipped an impending free agent (Marte) and a player having a career half, this is a very good deal for the Pirates’ first-year GM.

• Before this somewhat lost 2008 for Tabata, John Sickels compared Tabata to Fernando Martinez, the Mets untouchable prospect who they wouldn't trade for anyone:

I think Martinez has a slight edge in background/intangibles and in current performance, while they rate even in projection and tools. So overall I think Martinez comes out just a little bit ahead. But it's close, very close, so close that I ranked Martinez at #17 and Tabata at #18 on my Top 50 hitting prospects list.

Bucs Deals: Nady to Yankees

July 31 has come and gone and Neal Huntington has stamped your local baseball team with his own personal stamp, and it looks very different than what Dave Littlefield had in mind or was able to execute against.

Let's look at the deals separately, then the overall haul for the Bucs and then a comparison of where Huntington has differed from his predecessor.

In the end, I think you'll come away more optimistic than you may be right now. So out aside those lingering feelings of doom that has festered for 15 years and know that this is a new regime that had nothing to do with the past 15 seasons and decisions. These are different people thinking different ways, except for the owner, but there are no indications that salary or payroll had any say in any of these deals, unlike the Aramis Ramirez deal to the Cubs in 2003.

[Quick aside: I caught an independent minor league game recently in Bridgeport, CT and the visiting team was the Newark Bears. Upon perusing the Bears roster, I was surprised to see the sausage king of Milwaukee, Randall Simon, listed. But alas, Randall did not play this night. But one Bear who did was none other than Bobby Hill, the prize of that ARam deal. This was a day when ARam had hit a GW HR for the Cubbies that afternoon, which I alerted Bobby to during one on deck appearance and he ignored me until he saw my Bucs hat and realized I shared the pain and he gave a quick point.]]

Nady and Marte to Yankees for Jeff Karstens, Ross Ohlendorf, Daniel McCutchen and Jose Tabata.

Marte was gone no matter what - only teams like the Yankees, Mets and Red Sox pay a middle reliever over $6M per year. Maybe the Bucs could have kept either Nady or Bay. Bay in particular likely could have been signed. But let's forget the notion in this case that the Nuttings refuse to shell out the dough - what would signing one of these guys have done? They are a losing team now and without good players coming up to play alongside them, they would continue to lose. And here's the key and where Huntington differs drastically from Littlefield: both of these guys were at the peak of their trade value and have enough questions around them to doubt their continued performance levels (Nady has never hit above .280 before, Bay's age raises questions) and Huntington realized this and moved while the iron was hot. As opposed to Littlefield, who dealt players at their lowest point in value and got little in return.

Still, in this particular case, I am not a big fan of this deal from the Bucs perspective. For two main reasons:

1. Nady and Marte were two of the more valuable trade chips ANY team had and packaging them together likely diminished the overall return that could have been brought back. We've seen lefty specialists bring back big bounties in the past - Rincon for Giles and Gonzalez for LaRoche for example. Marte is better than those two and while the LaRoche deal looks bad for the Bucs right now, LaRoche was at least as good a prospect as any the Bucs got in this deal.
2. The way the deal negotiations have come out makes it seem like this came together very quickly and Huntington didn't shop around enough to see if he could get a better offer. As soon as he offered Nady and Marte together, he should have offered them to other teams besides the Yankees.

So on this side, I have no problem dealing wither and/or both Marte and Nady. They were going to go. My only issue with this deal is the return and even I am coming around a little on the return. Let's look at them:

• Ross Ohlendorf: On the Yankees pregame show before their home opener this year that eventually got rained out, the Yankee blowhards (announcers) stated flat out: "Ross Ohlendorf is the key to the Yankees this year." I spit out my drink and laughed. Truly, it was nonsense and if he was truly the key, then the Yankees should be in last place right now because he has not been good. Still, it's insightful because he was being counted on to become the bridge between the starters and the 8th inning, then manned by Joba Chamberlain (a key role, but one that should never be considered the key to an entire team). Point is, he has potential and throws hard and one half season of struggles aren't enough to make teams get rid of him. He can still be that middle reliever, late innig guy the Yankees were hoping for.
• Jeff Karstens: If the claims of quantity over quality come from anywhere, they probably come from seeing Jeff Karstens in this deal. No major upside here, he's a 25 year old who can be in a rotation but not at the top. Or he could be a valuable middle guy, certainly likely to be better than JVB or Osorio or...I could go on and on.
  
• Daniel McCutchen: Born two days after Karstens, he is a possible middle of the rotation starter who will begin in the minors. The fact that these two pitchers are both 25, soon to be 26, means they aren't likely to progress significantly and that they are what they are, which isn't necessarily all bad, but it's not like these guys are plus prospects either.
  
• Jose Tabata: the key to the deal and the reason why some people either really hate this deal or really like it. YankeeNation of course, is disparaging Tabata for walking out on his team earlier this year and claiming he would never blossom and that they don't allow his kind of player on the Yankees (another drink spitter!). And there are flags: he left his team earlier this year and has had a bad year numbers wise. But one article recently spoke of how he has rebounded from the early season suspension and getting his confidence back. And as a 19 year old, he won't be the first to have a bad year at AA and rebound (see Hanley Ramirez), but there are lots who don't bounce back as well. I think he is too risky a return for what the Pirates had to offer. Still, he is only 19 and until they sign Pedro Alvarez, he is the best prospect in the organization.

This is a deal that will only get better for the Bucs over time, until the time comes and a fair evaluation of Tabata can be made. The three pitchers can come a blow up a la JVB or Bullington and the deal could still be a good one if Tabata pans out. But to be fair, Tabata has to become a productive major leaguer, maybe not a star, and at least two of the three pitchers need to become contributors. I'm not sure they will.

But maybe this deal helped to get Huntington's feet wet, as his second trade was even more impressive...

Pittsburgh Stealers - WSJ

From the WSJ: Pittsburgh Stealers

How about Wall Street Jagoffs?

Why does this paper thinly hide its presidential choice behind scare tactics that are so outlandish that they are absurd? It's almost as if the WSJ has taken up Bushian tactics to force public opinion in one direction, using an argument that is based on wrong assumptions.

Here are a few quotes from the article:

The citizens of Pittsburgh are getting an unpleasant lesson in the consequences of punitive taxation, courtesy of their beloved NFL franchise. Inside the Pittsburgh Steeler boardroom, a fraternal squabble is under way over future ownership—thanks in part to a sacking from the realities of estate and capital gains taxes.

Daniel Rooney, the eldest brother who runs the team, is offering to buy his four brothers out of their shares. He has said he will do "everything possible to ensure my father's legacy" and keep the team in family hands, and in Pittsburgh. Good luck to him.

Adding urgency to the Pittsburgh transaction is the prospect of a Democratic President in 2009 who opposes repeal of the death tax and wants to raise the tax rate for capital gains. Barack Obama has promised to raise the rate from 15% to at least 25%, and perhaps the
Clinton-era peak of 28%. The artificial timeline adds appeal to a buyer like Mr. Druckenmiller who has the dough to complete a transaction before the end of this year.

When taxes force a family to sell a business, the losers are often the community as much as the next generation, as teams leave and neighborhood fixtures fade away. Mr. Obama is planning to accept his nomination for President in the football stadium of the Denver Broncos in August. The irony will be noted in Pittsburgh, which may lose the Steelers thanks to a tax regime that forces thousands of American families to sell their businesses.

A couple of logical notes to this propaganda:

• The Rooney's are being forced to restructure now because the NFL has asked them stop mixing gambling and football (a whole other topic for discussion). Taxes and estate planning are part of it but were not the driving force to make this happen now and in public view.
• Dan Rooney is a vocal supporter of Barack Obama so he is clearly not too worried about the impact of his proposal to increase capital gains tax rates.
• No matter how this plays out, the Steelers are not leaving Pittsburgh. For the WSJ to suggest it is stooping to Bushian levels of scaredom to garner support for their political view. In this case, sports and politics so not mix and the WSJ should issue a restatement, this time with the facts included.
  

Penguins Announce 2008-09 Schedule

The Penguins will play six games each against their Atlantic Division rivals, the Philadelphia Flyers, New York Rangers, New Jersey Devils and New York Islanders --- three at home, three on the road. They will play four games each against the other 10 teams in the Eastern Conference --- two at home, two on the road.

Of the 82 regular season game, the Penguins will play 64 against Eastern Conference teams and 18 against Western Conference representatives.

For the first time since a lockout resulted in the cancellation of 2004-05 NHL season, the schedule will have Eastern Conference teams playing each Western Conference team at least once.

2008-09 REGULAR SEASON SCHEDULE

Sat., October 4th @ Ottawa, 2:30 PM (Sweden)
Sun., October 5th vs. Ottawa, 2:30 PM (Sweden)
Sat., October 11th vs. New Jersey, 7:30 PM
Tue., October 14th vs. Philadelphia, 7:00 PM
Thur., October 16th vs. Washington, 7:30 PM
Sat., October 18th vs. Toronto, 7:00 PM
Mon., October 20th @ Boston, 7:00 PM
Thur., October 23rd vs. Carolina, 7:30 PM
Sat., October 25th @ New York Rangers, 7:00 PM
Tue., October 28th @ San Jose, 10:30 PM
Thur., October 30th @ Phoenix, 10:00 PM
Sat., November 1st @ St. Louis, 8:30 PM
Thur., November 6th vs. Edmonton, 7:30 PM
Sat., November 8th @ New York Islanders, 7:00 PM
Tue., November 11th @ Detroit, 7:00 PM
Thur., November 13th vs. Philadelphia, 7:30 PM
Sat., November 15th vs. Buffalo, 7:30 PM
Tue., November 18th vs. Minnesota, 7:00 PM
Thur., November 20th @ Atlanta, 7:00 PM
Sat., November 22nd vs. Vancouver, 1:00 PM
Wed., November 26th @ New York Islanders, 7:00 PM
Fri., November 28th @ Buffalo, 7:30 PM
Sat., November 29th vs. New Jersey, 7:30 PM
Wed., December 3rd @ New York Rangers, 7:00 PM
Thur., December 4th @ Carolina, 7:00 PM
Sat., December 6th @ Ottawa, 7:00 PM
Mon., December 8th vs. Buffalo, 7:30 PM
Wed., December 10th @ New Jersey, 7:00 PM
Thur., December 11th vs. New York Islanders, 7:30 PM
Sat., December 13th @ Philadelphia, 1:00 PM
Thur., December 18th @ Atlanta, 7:00 PM
Sat., December 20th vs. Toronto, 7:00 PM
Mon., December 22nd @ Buffalo, 7:00 PM
Tue., December 23rd vs. Tampa Bay, 7:30 PM
Fri., December 26th @ New Jersey, 7:00 PM
Sat., December 27th vs. Montreal, 7:00 PM
Tue., December 30th vs. Boston, 7:30 PM
Thur., January 1st @ Boston, 7:00 PM
Sat., January 3rd vs. Florida, 1:00 PM
Mon., January 5th @ New York Rangers, 7:00 PM
Tue., January 6th vs. Atlanta, 7:30 PM
Thur., January 8th @ Nashville, 8:00 PM
Sat., January 10th @ Colorado, 3:00 PM
Tue., January 13th @ Philadelphia, 7:00 PM
Wed., January 14th vs. Washington, 7:30 PM
Fri., January 16th vs. Anaheim, 7:30 PM
Sun., January 18th vs. New York Rangers, 3:00 PM
Tue., January 20th vs. Carolina, 7:30 PM
Wed., January 28th vs. New York Rangers, 7:30 PM
Fri., January 30th @ New Jersey, 7:00 PM
Sat., January 31st @ Toronto, 7:00 PM
Tue., February 3rd @ Montreal, 7:30 PM
Wed., February 4th vs. Tampa Bay, 7:30 PM
Fri., February 6th vs. Columbus, 7:30 PM
Sun., February 8th vs. Detroit, 3:00 PM
Wed., February 11th vs. San Jose, 7:30 PM
Sat., February 14th @ Toronto, 7:00 PM
Mon., February 16th @ New York Islanders, 2:00 PM
Thur., February 19th vs. Montreal, 7:00 PM
Sat., February 21st @ Philadelphia, 1:00 PM
Sun., February 22nd @ Washington, 3:00 PM
Wed., February 25th vs. New York Islanders, 7:30 PM
Fri., February 27th @ Chicago, 8:30 PM
Sun., March 1st @ Dallas, 3:00 PM
Tue., March 3rd @ Tampa Bay, 7:30 PM
Thur., March 5th @ Florida, 7:30 PM
Sun., March 8th @ Washington, 3:00 PM
Tue., March 10th vs. Florida, 7:30 PM
Thur., March 12th @ Columbus, 7:00 PM
Sat., March 14th vs. Ottawa, 3:00 PM
Sun., March 15th vs. Boston, 3:00 PM
Tue., March 17th vs. Atlanta, 7:30 PM
Fri., March 20th vs. Los Angeles, 7:30 PM
Sun., March 22nd vs. Philadelphia, 3:00 PM
Wed., March 25th vs. Calgary, 7:30 PM
Sat., March 28th vs. New York Rangers, 1:00 PM
Wed., April 1st vs. New Jersey, 7:30 PM
Sat., April 4th @ Carolina, 7:00 PM
Sun., April 5th @ Florida, 5:00 PM
Tue., April 7th @ Tampa Bay, 7:30 PM
Thur., April 9th vs. New York Islanders, 7:30 PM
Sat., April 11th @ Montreal, 7:00 PM